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« on: April 18, 2009, 07:27:50 pm »

some technical info


The Rifle, 7.62mm, FN, C1A1, is designed primarily as a personal weapon for the Canadian Forces. The C1A1 is a semi-automatic weapon which enables the operator to fire single shots at varying rates. The rifle can be fitted with a telescopic sight for sniping and long range fighting, and a bayonet for close combat.

The Rifle, 7.62mm, FN, C1A1D, is equipped with a selector switch which enables the user to fire single shots or automatic bursts. It is in service aboard Canadian Forces ships.

The Rifle, 7.62mm, FN, C1A1, and C1A1D, are air cooled, gas and spring operated weapons. Both feed from a magazine, have an adjustable gas regulator, and fire from a positive locked breech.

The main components of the weapon can be disassembled and assembled by the user for cleaning purposes.

IDENTIFICATION

Manufacturer: Canadian Arsenals Limited

Models: C1A1 and C1A1D

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

PHYSICAL DATA

Weight: Normal butt, empty magazine 9 lb. 6 oz. Normal butt, full 20 rd magazine 10 lb. 15 oz. Length Normal butt 44.75 in

ANCILLARY ITEMS

Bayonet, Adapter, magazine charger, Telescope, sniper, C1, Mount, Telescope, C2, Attachment, blank firing apparatus

OPERATING DATA

System of operation: Spring and gas operated, magazine fed. GOD How we used to recite that in our sleep! LOL

Safety feature: Mechanically locked dropped breech block.

Muzzle velocity 2750 ± 40 fps.

BARREL DATA: Length 21 in. Calibre 7.62 mm

RIFLING PARTICULARS: Number of grooves 6 Pitch 1 turn in 12 in. Direction of twist right hand

BUTT LENGTHS: Extra long butt 11.5 in. Long butt 11 in. Normal butt 10.25 in. Short butt
9.75 in.

AMMUNITION DATA

Type 7.62 mm NATO STANDARD Size 7.62 mm

Magazine capacity 20 rounds

SIGHTING DATA

Rear sight aperture Front sight blade Sight radius 21 in.

RANGE OF ADJUSTMENT

Ranging Rear sight is graduated from 200 to 600 yards in increments of 100 yards.

Zeroing - Rear sight One revolution of the zeroing screws provides 5 minutes of angular or 9.52 inches latéral movement of the MPI at 200 yards.

Zeroing - Front sight One revolution of the front sight blade provides 4 minutes of angular or 8.57 inches vertical movement of the MPI at 200 yards.


FN FAL


Service history
In service         1953—present

Vietnam War   Cambodian Civil War   Six-Day War
Portuguese Colonial War  the South African Border War
Northern Ireland Troubles  Rhodesian Bush War
Falklands War  Gulf War  Both Chechen Wars
Balkan Wars  Cenepa War   Sierra Leone Civil War
Yom Kippur War

Production history
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Designer                 Dieudonne Saive, Ernest Vervier
Designed                 1947-1953
Manufacturer         Fabrique Nationale (FN)

Specifications

Weight                 4.0–4.45 kg (8.8–9.8 lb)
Length                 1,090 mm (43 in)
Barrel length         533 mm (21 in)
Cartridge               7.62x51mm NATO
Action                 Gas-operated, tilting breechblock
Rate of fire         650 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity         823 m/s (2,700 ft/s)
Effective range         500 meters
Feed system         20 or 30-round detachable box magazine
Sights                 Aperture rear sight, hooded post front sight


The Fusil Automatique Léger (Light Automatic Rifle) or FAL is a 7.62x51 NATO self-loading, selective fire rifle produced by the Belgian armaments manufacturer Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (FN) during the Cold War, and adopted by many North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) countries. It has also been adopted by many other nations for their armed forces and has proven to be a popular civilian rifle for hunting and sport shooting. The FN FAL was also produced under license in many of the adopting countries. Because of its prevalence and widespread use among the armed forces of many Western and other non-Communist countries during the Cold War, it was nicknamed "the right arm of the Free World".

Canada

The Canadian Forces operated a number of versions, the most common being the FN C1A1, similar to the British L1A1 (which became more or less a Commonwealth standard), under license by the Canadian Arsenal Limited company.[2] Canada was the first country to use the FAL. The C1 and C1A1 used a folding disk rear sight with ranges from 200 to 600 yards. It served as Canada's standard battle rifle from the early 1950s to 1984, when it began to be phased out in favor of the lighter Diemaco C7. The Canadians also operated an automatic variant as a section support weapon, similar to the FN FAL 50.41/42, but with a larger bipod and no handguard, under the designation FN C2A1. The C2A1 used a folding disk rear sight with ranges from 200 to 1000 meters. The C1 was equipped with a 20-round magazine and the C2 with a 30-round magazine, although the two were interchangeable. Variants of the initial FN C1 and the product improved C1A1 were also made for the Royal Canadian Navy, which was capable of automatic fire, under the designations C1D and C1A1D. These weapons are identifiable by a "A" for automatic, carved or stamped into the buttstock. Boarding parties for domestic and international searches used these models.

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FN C1 and FN C1A1
1955-1985

The FN was the first semi-automatic weapon to be adopted by the Canadian Army, who was also the first NATO country to adopt this robust Belgian weapon which later saw service in militaries around the world. Heavy and firing a large (7.62mm) cartridge, the FN was much liked and respected by many soldiers who used it, and its replacement in the 1980s by the C7 (with its much smaller round) was a point of contention among many "old soldiers" who preferred the heavy FN.

A fully automatic version called the C1D was used by naval boarding parties. These weapons were fitted with a change lever and trigger plunger from the automatic C2 version, though without the C2's heavy barrel and bipod. The rifle was identified with a large A on the side of the butt near the rear sight, painted in either red or white. Some C1Ds were eventual placed in service with land force units.

The FN was produced by Fabrique Nationale of Belgium, and the Canadian FN was produced under license by Canadian Arsenals Limited (CAL) (Long Branch). An "Arctic trigger" on Canadian weapons allowed the trigger guard to be removed so the weapon could be fired with heavy mitts on.



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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 05:16:46 pm »

 



Canadian Army Rifle Team. Bisley, England 1965.

Front (left to right): Sgt.J. E. Daigle, Capt. W. J. Molnar, Capt. J. S. MacAulay, Lt. L. R. Joudrey, L/Cpl. F. Unger.

Centre (left to right): Tpr. J. Kabatoff, Sgt. H. E. O'Neil, Pte. D. G. Forsythe, Cpl. A. W. J. Connors.

Rear (left to right): Sgt. V. L. Kavanagh, Pte. H. McKay, Cpl. C. E. Hockett, Cpl. D. W. G. Spicer, Pte J. R. Hennick.

Sgt. J. E. Daigle (1963/66/70) and Capt. W. J. Molnar (1964) were Queen's Medal winners at the time.

Pte Hennick and Pte McKay subsequently went on to win the Queen's Medal in 1971 and 1978 respectively.

 Warrant Officer Joseph Rudolph Hennick CD


Joseph  Rudolph Hennick enlisted in the Canadian Army in 1958 and initially served with the 1st Battalion, The Black Watch Regiment.

In 1964 he was a member of the 1st Battalion, The Black Watch Regiment Rifle Team which won the Letson Trophy at the annual Canadian Army championships (the forerunner of the current CAFSAC) and went on to compete for the Canadian Army at Bisley, Surrey in the United Kingdom in 1965.  This was to be the first of two appearances by Hennick at Bisley.


Transferring to the 2nd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment in 1966, Hennick continued his service shooting and was selected to be a member of the Regimental team which won the 1970 Prix Lecrec competition in Germany, and in which Canada triumphed against teams from five NATO Countries.
QUEEN'S MEDAL

On the 8th and 9th of August 1971 the Canadian Forces (Regular) Small Arms Competition (CAFSAC) was held at the Connaught Ranges in Ontario, Canada.

At the time, Master Corporal J. R. Hennick CD, was a member of the 1st Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment, having transferred back into the Regiment in 1970.  This was not his first Queen's Medal competition, but it would prove to be his most successful. Firing the FN C1A1 7.62 rifle, Hennick posted a record score of 681.  This score won him the Queen's Medal for 1971 and broke the previous record score of 670 points.


More can be found here

http://www.queensmedal.net/files/hennick.htm
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 05:22:00 pm »

Sentinel article. Note bottom picture.

Captain Steve Tibbets, Regular Force Queens Medal winner.

                         


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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 09:54:54 am »



1RCR Rifle team... 1969
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 09:47:00 pm »

I remember the day the FNC1 entered service, at least for me.  When I became an army cadet in 1956 and then a militiaman in 1957 we trained on the entire family of WWII small arms -- .303cal. Lee Enfield Mark 4 Number One Star (my first rifle number was 31L8551), Bren Gun and Sten Gun.  On our first parade after the start of the new training season, likely on or about 15 September, 1957, we were introduced to these long cardboard boxes, bound around both ends by steel bands which, once cut and the box opened, revealed a true marvel of the modern military world.

It was like stepping into a science fiction movie, moving from the old reliable Lee Enfield, with its bolt-action, 10-round box magazine of rimmed cartridges and spike bayonet to this new wonder.  Putting it to use required a whole new approach because, although it weighed about the same as the rifle it replaced, it was different in every respect.  Training seemed to take forever because there was so much to learn -- safety precautions, stripping and assembly, care and cleaning, holding, aiming and firing, fixing and unfixing the bayonet, and especially rifle drill, were all new.  I had been a marksman with the Lee Enfield and after much practice I was finally able to achieve the same results with the new weapon -- but not until I traded my first rifle for one with the proper butt length.  I had grown some and didn't realize I now needed and extra-long, which put the rear sight at the proper distance from the eyeball and made the aim more precise.  The drill got easier, too, because after I got over no longer sloping arms, I no longer had to bend over on my right side to grasp the foresight while standing at attention or at ease or preparing the first shoulder-arms movement.  And on the range, the new weapon was a thing of beauty, especially when used in mass rapid fire.  Where we used to be able to get away 10 rounds of aimed fire from the Lee Enfield as fast as we could work the bolt before having to recharge the magazine, with the new weapon we could fire 20 rounds, change the magazine and let go another 20 rounds, in the same or less time.  Compared to the old rifle, it made you feel like Superman.

I retired just as the new family of 5.56mm small arms was being issued so I consider myself fortunate to have seen three entirely different sets of weapons carried by the Canadian Army.  aldi
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2014, 03:41:03 am »

So I have to interject based in a lot of people talking about the changes of the standard issue fal,  to the revamped fn c1 a1 which stands for first national canadas first alterations 1. The alterations being gas regulation and a five slot flash suppressing muzzle break, just to let you all know you stand corrected. Also, there was no need for a complete tear down, ship away reaching of the firing mechanism to achieve full auto action...any soldier worth his weight in 7.62 rounds could easily field strip this rifle and convert it to full auto in under a minute with nothing more than a toothpick to hold the action open to achieve full auto capabilities.  Also this rifle was banned and all production ceased and all rifles taken out of service in 1969 as it was deemed as an inhumane weapon based on the tiny entry wound and gaping holes it left upon exiting the body and it's ability at 150 yds to travel through 100 men 1 meter apart and still imbed the round in a brick wall. None of these rifles were sold to the public and the only existing original rifles are stored at and utilized by army cadets throughout the country, namely the Lorne Scotts regiments
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